1 00:00:01,316 --> 00:00:02,566 >> Joan Sted: Thanks again we're back 2 00:00:02,566 --> 00:00:06,076 in Building 220 I'm Joan Sted at Thomas Mission Operations test 3 00:00:06,196 --> 00:00:08,916 and this time we're talking with Alvin Drew who is the commander 4 00:00:08,956 --> 00:00:10,726 for today's run of the test. 5 00:00:11,206 --> 00:00:12,256 [Background noise] Thanks so much for coming back. 6 00:00:12,256 --> 00:00:14,666 I know we talked with you last time we were had these tests 7 00:00:14,666 --> 00:00:15,596 going on back in May so. 8 00:00:15,596 --> 00:00:15,736 . . 9 00:00:15,736 --> 00:00:15,976 >> Alvin Drew: Yes. 10 00:00:16,246 --> 00:00:17,186 >> Joan Sted: . . .this is a little different 11 00:00:17,186 --> 00:00:20,156 than I think last time ya'll were using just basic what we 12 00:00:20,156 --> 00:00:21,706 already know to deal with the time. 13 00:00:21,706 --> 00:00:21,773 . . 14 00:00:21,773 --> 00:00:21,840 >> Alvin Drew: Yes. 15 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:21,936 >> Joan Sted: . . .delay. 16 00:00:21,936 --> 00:00:23,486 And this time you're trying out some new tools 17 00:00:23,486 --> 00:00:24,206 and procedures, right? 18 00:00:24,206 --> 00:00:24,686 >> Alvin Drew: Absolutely. 19 00:00:24,886 --> 00:00:25,026 >> Joan Sted: Okay. 20 00:00:25,026 --> 00:00:25,596 How's it going? 21 00:00:25,876 --> 00:00:26,386 >> Alvin Drew: It's going well. 22 00:00:26,826 --> 00:00:27,946 It's like you talked about before. 23 00:00:28,036 --> 00:00:31,206 The tools we were using last time were the same 20th century 24 00:00:31,206 --> 00:00:33,706 tools we've been using since the days of mercury. 25 00:00:33,826 --> 00:00:34,976 So they're 50 years old. 26 00:00:35,016 --> 00:00:37,116 It's like the walkie talkie model of talking where, 27 00:00:37,466 --> 00:00:39,706 you know, you cue the mic and you say something and let go 28 00:00:39,706 --> 00:00:40,846 of the mic and the person's cue's the mic 29 00:00:40,846 --> 00:00:42,106 on the other end and they talk to you. 30 00:00:42,576 --> 00:00:46,696 And they well if you are doing something fairly simple 31 00:00:46,696 --> 00:00:48,516 and you're only a few hundred miles away from the earth, 32 00:00:48,986 --> 00:00:52,256 but the distances we're simulating right now it doesn't 33 00:00:52,256 --> 00:00:52,746 work as well. 34 00:00:52,926 --> 00:00:56,326 So with this today we've got all our 21st century tools that some 35 00:00:56,326 --> 00:00:58,526 of the people recognize as being just normal stuff we use 36 00:00:58,526 --> 00:01:01,056 like texting and other things like that to see 37 00:01:01,056 --> 00:01:01,886 if that helps us out any. 38 00:01:02,286 --> 00:01:03,776 >> Joan Sted: You wouldn't think NASA needed any help getting 39 00:01:03,776 --> 00:01:05,646 into the 21st century, but I guess so. 40 00:01:05,976 --> 00:01:08,546 We have stuff that has worked for a while, but it's time 41 00:01:08,546 --> 00:01:10,406 to move on to some new . 42 00:01:10,406 --> 00:01:10,516 . . 43 00:01:10,516 --> 00:01:11,696 >> Alvin Drew: We've got new challenges in front 44 00:01:11,696 --> 00:01:12,986 of us and new things to do. 45 00:01:12,986 --> 00:01:16,536 So the tools that worked well for the past 50 years why fool 46 00:01:16,536 --> 00:01:17,826 with them and they're working fine. 47 00:01:18,746 --> 00:01:20,796 These are things that we know that tools will not work 48 00:01:20,846 --> 00:01:23,316 when we are long distance away from the [inaudible] speed 49 00:01:23,316 --> 00:01:25,256 of light, you know, that may take you 20 minutes 50 00:01:25,256 --> 00:01:25,986 to get an answer back. 51 00:01:26,386 --> 00:01:28,926 And if that answer was can you say all that again, 52 00:01:29,726 --> 00:01:30,916 well that gets to be very frustrating. 53 00:01:30,916 --> 00:01:32,456 So it's nice to have things that written records 54 00:01:32,456 --> 00:01:34,086 of what you wanted if you could send a text message 55 00:01:34,086 --> 00:01:35,326 so they can just re-read the message. 56 00:01:35,466 --> 00:01:37,106 >> Joan Sted: Well, how do you think that's going so far? 57 00:01:37,316 --> 00:01:37,796 Do you like the choice? 58 00:01:37,796 --> 00:01:38,706 >> Alvin Drew: I think it's going great. 59 00:01:38,706 --> 00:01:40,486 It's a little bit strange because I'm used to lots 60 00:01:40,486 --> 00:01:42,596 of chatter over the radios when things are going on 61 00:01:42,596 --> 00:01:44,656 and we've spent the whole morning I think we talked 62 00:01:44,656 --> 00:01:45,776 to them three times. 63 00:01:46,096 --> 00:01:47,866 [Laughter] So we think we're mad at each other 64 00:01:47,866 --> 00:01:48,636 or something and we're not. 65 00:01:48,636 --> 00:01:49,986 [Laughter] It's just -- there's just a lot 66 00:01:50,186 --> 00:01:51,856 of typing and chattering away. 67 00:01:51,856 --> 00:01:53,376 So if you're a teenager 68 00:01:53,376 --> 00:01:55,246 with a phone it would seem perfectly normal to you, 69 00:01:55,586 --> 00:01:57,876 but to somebody like me who's just a few months away 70 00:01:57,876 --> 00:01:59,646 from AARP card it's a little bit weird 71 00:01:59,676 --> 00:02:02,046 to not hear any chatter over the radio lines. 72 00:02:02,246 --> 00:02:02,826 >> Joan Sted: So how many -- 73 00:02:02,866 --> 00:02:04,586 are there runs in all the [inaudible] today 74 00:02:04,716 --> 00:02:06,316 at three different time delays? 75 00:02:06,496 --> 00:02:06,626 >> Alvin Drew: Yes. 76 00:02:06,766 --> 00:02:07,336 >> Joan Sted: Five seconds . 77 00:02:07,336 --> 00:02:07,736 . . 78 00:02:07,736 --> 00:02:08,196 >> Alvin Drew: Five seconds . 79 00:02:10,046 --> 00:02:08,263 . . 80 00:02:10,086 --> 00:02:10,876 which is five minutes. 81 00:02:10,876 --> 00:02:11,056 >> Joan Sted: Right. 82 00:02:11,136 --> 00:02:12,156 So which ones have you done so far? 83 00:02:12,316 --> 00:02:13,556 >> Alvin Drew: So far we've done 50 seconds 84 00:02:13,716 --> 00:02:16,226 and we'll look five minutes 85 00:02:16,316 --> 00:02:18,826 and then we'll do another run actually with 50 seconds again. 86 00:02:18,826 --> 00:02:19,966 We won't do the five second delay. 87 00:02:20,356 --> 00:02:21,306 >> Joan Sted: What kind of things have you had 88 00:02:21,306 --> 00:02:22,846 to do under those delays? 89 00:02:22,886 --> 00:02:26,076 What kind of tasks and activities? 90 00:02:26,126 --> 00:02:28,476 >> Alvin Drew: Basically I caught this old -- 91 00:02:28,476 --> 00:02:30,146 things that are broken I guess we're on our way home. 92 00:02:30,146 --> 00:02:34,186 So we've got computers that are hard drives that are failing. 93 00:02:34,186 --> 00:02:37,506 We've got inspections and we've got some dings on our spacecraft 94 00:02:37,506 --> 00:02:39,946 from micro-meteoroid strikes. 95 00:02:40,276 --> 00:02:43,816 We've got an exercise device that's got worn 96 00:02:43,816 --> 00:02:45,496 out from I guess we've been doing too much exercise. 97 00:02:45,496 --> 00:02:46,566 That's a good thing I take it. 98 00:02:46,566 --> 00:02:46,806 >> Joan Sted: Good job. 99 00:02:46,886 --> 00:02:49,196 >> Alvin Drew: So things we're just tidying things up 100 00:02:49,196 --> 00:02:50,486 and getting ready for the trip back home. 101 00:02:50,696 --> 00:02:53,566 >> Joan Sted: And is it hard to do it without being able 102 00:02:53,566 --> 00:02:54,866 to talk instantly to the ground, 103 00:02:54,866 --> 00:02:56,956 or do you think you're able to handle it? 104 00:02:56,956 --> 00:02:58,756 >> Alvin Drew: As long as things run normally there's not a lot 105 00:02:58,756 --> 00:03:00,416 of reason to talk granted it's just coordination. 106 00:03:00,416 --> 00:03:02,016 It's letting them know we're starting this procedure 107 00:03:02,016 --> 00:03:04,506 on this times and they want to know that and how things go 108 00:03:04,506 --> 00:03:05,306 when you get done with it. 109 00:03:05,356 --> 00:03:06,506 You know we found this particular 110 00:03:06,506 --> 00:03:08,386 and we put this away over here. 111 00:03:08,386 --> 00:03:10,936 We testing this thing, we got this piece of data back. 112 00:03:10,966 --> 00:03:13,056 And so none of it's really urgent and there doesn't need 113 00:03:13,056 --> 00:03:14,026 to be a whole lot of interaction. 114 00:03:14,206 --> 00:03:15,976 We send them information. 115 00:03:15,976 --> 00:03:16,396 They get it. 116 00:03:16,396 --> 00:03:17,826 They acknowledge if they have any questions they bring it 117 00:03:17,826 --> 00:03:18,186 back up. 118 00:03:18,186 --> 00:03:20,896 So I haven't really noticed any big to do's. 119 00:03:20,926 --> 00:03:22,266 I think when things get dynamic 120 00:03:22,326 --> 00:03:24,466 when you know maybe something goes wrong, 121 00:03:24,526 --> 00:03:27,146 which stuff will happen here in the next couple of runs. 122 00:03:27,146 --> 00:03:29,156 That's when the adrenaline starts to pick up a bit 123 00:03:29,156 --> 00:03:30,906 because there's time delays on both ends now. 124 00:03:31,096 --> 00:03:31,296 >> Joan Sted: Right. 125 00:03:31,366 --> 00:03:34,336 Okay. Well, so, you know, going through this now, 126 00:03:34,336 --> 00:03:35,796 do you think this is going to get us ready 127 00:03:35,856 --> 00:03:37,686 for when it is time to go to [inaudible]? 128 00:03:37,846 --> 00:03:39,106 You know, we've got the Ryan 129 00:03:39,316 --> 00:03:42,516 and the space launch system being built now. 130 00:03:42,516 --> 00:03:45,766 So that's help get us in that direction, but are we going 131 00:03:45,766 --> 00:03:46,636 to be ready once we get there? 132 00:03:46,916 --> 00:03:47,256 >> Alvin Drew: I think so. 133 00:03:47,256 --> 00:03:48,536 We're making big strides right now. 134 00:03:48,686 --> 00:03:51,816 And what I'm seeing a lot of feedback from crew members is 135 00:03:51,816 --> 00:03:54,076 that these are tools we can use right now working 136 00:03:54,076 --> 00:03:55,076 on the National Space Station, 137 00:03:55,076 --> 00:03:56,926 whereas the tools we have right now work fine, 138 00:03:57,246 --> 00:03:59,826 these actually make our life better up there. 139 00:04:00,036 --> 00:04:01,576 Having things like text so we don't have 140 00:04:01,576 --> 00:04:02,676 to go could you please say again, 141 00:04:02,906 --> 00:04:04,986 even though there's no time delay they can go look 142 00:04:04,986 --> 00:04:05,436 at the message. 143 00:04:05,436 --> 00:04:06,206 So why not? 144 00:04:06,426 --> 00:04:09,596 That's not a big leap with these technologies. 145 00:04:09,696 --> 00:04:11,756 There are things that work on the same computers that we 146 00:04:11,756 --> 00:04:12,856 in the space station right now. 147 00:04:13,256 --> 00:04:15,486 So we're actually looking at implementing some 148 00:04:15,486 --> 00:04:17,376 of these things here and now. 149 00:04:17,376 --> 00:04:18,376 Some of the displays we have 150 00:04:18,376 --> 00:04:19,486 over [inaudible] look at our IPads. 151 00:04:19,486 --> 00:04:21,916 This is how we interact with this particular model 152 00:04:21,916 --> 00:04:25,826 of a space craft that wouldn't be a big deal to make that work 153 00:04:25,826 --> 00:04:26,766 on board our space station. 154 00:04:26,766 --> 00:04:28,426 So if you're looking at a procedure, you want to look 155 00:04:28,426 --> 00:04:31,046 at a systems, you don't have to float over to a workstation, 156 00:04:31,046 --> 00:04:32,906 look at it and then float back over to your worksite. 157 00:04:33,286 --> 00:04:35,556 You can take everything with you and use it right then and there. 158 00:04:35,716 --> 00:04:38,976 Well, now we've got IPads or Tablets available 159 00:04:38,976 --> 00:04:39,926 on board the space station. 160 00:04:40,386 --> 00:04:42,476 We can put the software on those particular Tablets 161 00:04:42,476 --> 00:04:43,506 and have that capability. 162 00:04:43,506 --> 00:04:45,566 So there are things that can enhance our lives 163 00:04:45,566 --> 00:04:48,226 on the space station now and of course get us ready 164 00:04:48,586 --> 00:04:50,406 for going further and further either way right 165 00:04:50,406 --> 00:04:53,506 into out beyond the moon and even further 166 00:04:53,506 --> 00:04:55,686 out in our planetary space in the near coming years. 167 00:04:55,956 --> 00:04:57,536 >> Joan Sted: Getting easier to imagine then? 168 00:04:58,166 --> 00:04:58,656 >> Alvin Drew: Yes, it is. 169 00:04:58,786 --> 00:04:58,906 >> Joan Sted: Yeah. 170 00:04:59,076 --> 00:04:59,256 >> Alvin Drew: Yes. 171 00:04:59,456 --> 00:04:59,826 >> Joan Sted: All right. 172 00:04:59,826 --> 00:05:01,506 Well, thank you so much for talking with us again. 173 00:05:01,506 --> 00:05:02,296 We really appreciate. 174 00:05:02,296 --> 00:05:03,286 It sounds like you've got a lot 175 00:05:03,286 --> 00:05:04,606 of interesting stuff going on here.